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== Background Information ==
=== What are the Nazca mummies? ===
 
The Nazca mummies are a collection of ancient human remains discovered in the Nazca region of Peru. In 2015, these mummified bodies were unearthed from a network of subterranean tunnels near the famous [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_Lines Nazca Lines], a series of ancient geoglyphs etched into the desert landscape.
=== What are they? ===
The Nazca Mummies are a collection of ancient bodies discovered in the Nazca region of Peru. Unearthed in a series of underground tunnels in 2015, these mummies were found near the Nazca Lines, famous for their geoglyphs.


=== How were they discovered? ===
=== How were they discovered? ===
In 2015, a Peruvian huaquero (grave robber) discovered three mummies ranging from 40cm to 61cm in length while searching through caves near the Nazca Lines. The grave robber, who happened to be friends with a doctor at the University of Inka in Lima, Peru, sold the specimens to the doctor for research purposes.
In 2015, Leandro Rivera, a Peruvian [[Huaquero|huaquero]] (grave robber), discovered three mummies ranging from 40 cm to 61 cm in length while exploring caves at an undisclosed location. Rivera, who had a personal connection with a doctor at the University of Inka in Lima, Peru, sold the specimens to the doctor for research purposes. The exact location of the caves where the mummies were found remains unknown to protect the site from further unauthorized excavations and potential damage to the archaeological context.


== Scientific Analysis ==
=== Wasn't this debunked already? ===
That debunk is primarily based on [[Debunks|Flavio Estrada's analysis]] for the Peruvian Ministry of Culture. Estrada claimed that the mummies' heads were made from modified llama skulls and their bodies from glued animal parts, but the UNICA team refuted these assertions. Estrada's conclusions may be influenced by his bias against UFO and alien research, as his report focused on discrediting such topics. Other counterclaims about the mummies' hands and bones being "wrong" have been addressed by radiologist [[People#Mary_K._Jesse,_M.D.|Dr. Mary K. Jesse]], who noted their unique anatomy without signs of fabrication.


=== How old are they? ===
Multiple intact bodies have been subjected to X-ray, CT scan, and fluoroscopy imaging. The results consistently demonstrate that the skeletal structures are complete and undamaged, without any evidence of dissection or reassembly. Once a bone has been severed, it is not possible to reconstruct it into a cohesive form without leaving clear indications of the alterations, which would be readily apparent in the imaging studies.
The age of the Nazca Mummies, as determined by carbon dating, varies among the specimens but generally dates back to between 750 CE and 1,300 CE.


=== Why are they covered in a white powder? ===
=== Is Jaime Maussan a hoaxer? ===
The bodies are covered in a white powder because they were buried in diatomaceous earth. This natural, powdery substance is known for its moisture-absorbing qualities, which helped preserve the mummies by drawing moisture away from the bodies and creating a dry environment that inhibits decay and bacterial growth.
Jaime Maussan, a Mexican journalist and ufologist known for hosting the TV show "Tercer Milenio," has a polarizing reputation within the paranormal community. While he commands a dedicated following, critics have accused him of promoting unverified and occasionally debunked stories. However, despite instances where material he showcased was later identified as hoaxes or misinterpretations, there is no evidence to suggest that Maussan is a hoaxer who deliberately fabricates stories. His interest appears to lie in exploring and presenting anomalous phenomena to his audience, as exemplified by his involvement in the Nazca mummies case starting in 2017, two years after their initial discovery.
 
== Controversies and Debates ==


=== Is Jaime Maussan a hoaxer? ===
=== Are there any American universities involved? ===
Jaime Maussan is a Mexican journalist and ufologist, known for hosting "Tercer Milenio," a TV show that explores paranormal phenomena, UFO sightings, and alien encounters. His reputation within the community is polarizing. He commands a dedicated following that values his discussion on paranormal activities. However, critics have accused him of promoting unverified and occasionally debunked stories, leading some to categorize him as a promoter of hoaxes or pseudo-science.
Recently, three American forensic experts announced that they are conducting their own independent study of the bodies. Rumors suggest they will make announcements soon. The son of one of the doctors, who is a lawyer, is running their public relations. These experts do not claim any affiliation with a university.


There have been instances where Maussan has showcased material that was subsequently identified as hoaxes or misinterpretations, such as the "Roswell Slides" incident. In this case, slides he claimed depicted an alien body were later determined to show a mummified human child. Nonetheless, there's no concrete evidence to suggest that Maussan has deliberately fabricated hoaxes. His interest appears to lie in exploring and presenting anomalous objects and phenomena to his audience.
=== Why are they covered in white powder? ===
The bodies are covered in a white powder because they were buried in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth diatomaceous earth]. This natural, powdery substance is known for its moisture-absorbing qualities, which helped preserve the mummies by drawing moisture away from the bodies and creating a dry environment that inhibits decay and bacterial growth.


Jaime Maussan became involved with the Nazca Mummies case in 2017, two years after their initial discovery in 2015. This timeline underscores that Maussan did not play a role in discovering the bodies but rather, his involvement highlights his sustained interest in exploring such anomalies.
=== How old are the specimens? ===
Carbon-14 dating has been performed on multiple specimens. While the age varies among the samples, the results generally indicate a range between 750 CE and 1,300 CE.


=== Are they glued together animal bones? ===
=== Why are they called buddies? ===
We have X-rays, CT scans, and fluoroscopy images of multiple bodies. The bones are whole and complete, not cut up and glued back together. It's impossible to reassemble a bone into a complete structure once it's been cut; such alterations would be extremely obvious in the imaging.
During the Mexican congressional hearing, the English subtitles provided for the live stream erroneously autocorrected the phrase "alien bodies" to "alien buddies." They’ve been the buddies ever since.

Latest revision as of 05:05, 24 April 2024

What are the Nazca mummies? Edit

The Nazca mummies are a collection of ancient human remains discovered in the Nazca region of Peru. In 2015, these mummified bodies were unearthed from a network of subterranean tunnels near the famous Nazca Lines, a series of ancient geoglyphs etched into the desert landscape.

How were they discovered? Edit

In 2015, Leandro Rivera, a Peruvian huaquero (grave robber), discovered three mummies ranging from 40 cm to 61 cm in length while exploring caves at an undisclosed location. Rivera, who had a personal connection with a doctor at the University of Inka in Lima, Peru, sold the specimens to the doctor for research purposes. The exact location of the caves where the mummies were found remains unknown to protect the site from further unauthorized excavations and potential damage to the archaeological context.

Wasn't this debunked already? Edit

That debunk is primarily based on Flavio Estrada's analysis for the Peruvian Ministry of Culture. Estrada claimed that the mummies' heads were made from modified llama skulls and their bodies from glued animal parts, but the UNICA team refuted these assertions. Estrada's conclusions may be influenced by his bias against UFO and alien research, as his report focused on discrediting such topics. Other counterclaims about the mummies' hands and bones being "wrong" have been addressed by radiologist Dr. Mary K. Jesse, who noted their unique anatomy without signs of fabrication.

Multiple intact bodies have been subjected to X-ray, CT scan, and fluoroscopy imaging. The results consistently demonstrate that the skeletal structures are complete and undamaged, without any evidence of dissection or reassembly. Once a bone has been severed, it is not possible to reconstruct it into a cohesive form without leaving clear indications of the alterations, which would be readily apparent in the imaging studies.

Is Jaime Maussan a hoaxer? Edit

Jaime Maussan, a Mexican journalist and ufologist known for hosting the TV show "Tercer Milenio," has a polarizing reputation within the paranormal community. While he commands a dedicated following, critics have accused him of promoting unverified and occasionally debunked stories. However, despite instances where material he showcased was later identified as hoaxes or misinterpretations, there is no evidence to suggest that Maussan is a hoaxer who deliberately fabricates stories. His interest appears to lie in exploring and presenting anomalous phenomena to his audience, as exemplified by his involvement in the Nazca mummies case starting in 2017, two years after their initial discovery.

Are there any American universities involved? Edit

Recently, three American forensic experts announced that they are conducting their own independent study of the bodies. Rumors suggest they will make announcements soon. The son of one of the doctors, who is a lawyer, is running their public relations. These experts do not claim any affiliation with a university.

Why are they covered in white powder? Edit

The bodies are covered in a white powder because they were buried in diatomaceous earth. This natural, powdery substance is known for its moisture-absorbing qualities, which helped preserve the mummies by drawing moisture away from the bodies and creating a dry environment that inhibits decay and bacterial growth.

How old are the specimens? Edit

Carbon-14 dating has been performed on multiple specimens. While the age varies among the samples, the results generally indicate a range between 750 CE and 1,300 CE.

Why are they called buddies? Edit

During the Mexican congressional hearing, the English subtitles provided for the live stream erroneously autocorrected the phrase "alien bodies" to "alien buddies." They’ve been the buddies ever since.